Large Hadron Collider Goes Online
Sep 11, 2008 0824 hrs IST
...and universe remains intact!
For the purpose of this story, let's call this section Past Watch, for that is the purpose of the controversial Large Hadron Collider (LHC). This 27-kilometre circular tunnel will serve as the arena for some serious atom-smashing, and will give us more insight into what precisely happened when the universe began. It's also, incidentally, been accused of heralding its end--scientists have battled death threats to get this behemoth up and running.
On Wednesday, the team of scientists at CERN, Switzerland, gave the LHC its first test run, successfully sending a beam of particles all the way round the tunnel at 99.999998 percent of the speed of light. In October, two such beams will be made to collide at similar speeds, and the researchers hope to recreate the first few seconds of the big bang. The reaction may reveal new dimensions, dark matter, and what is known as the "God particle"--the Higgs boson. The particle is the only one in the Standard Model of particle physics to have never been observed, and is thought to be the reason that particles (and hence us) have mass.
With a statement like "recreate the big bang", it's hard not to think of this as the end of the world--the last big bang was pretty darn big, we've been told. However, the scientists are quick to point out that this is a controlled environment, and we aren't likely to see a new universe create itself.
And if they're wrong, what can you do?
Source: CERN
USER COMMENTS
Then why is it called the theory of evolution? If you where to look, there is more evedence of creation. But since you dont want find it you wont look for it. And there are credible scientists that do not bieleve evolution. Darwin him self was a Christian. And after writing his book " On the Origin of Species " claimed he did not bieleve in evolution. There is nothing sientific about evolution. It is all about politics. but you dont want to believe me, because then there are rule to life. and that is what this discusion is all about, that and the LHC
by Mykul, Calgary, AB, on Sep 17, 2008 05:41 AM, Report abuse
Well, there is not so much compressed energy as before to make a NEW big bang. This only gives us insight into renewable energy. Also, see google group "SpaceTimeMotion" for relativity in the vedic days.
by Erach Irani, mumbai, on Sep 17, 2008 10:31 AM, Report abuse Reply
Are you really that ignorant? It's the THEORY of evolution and the THEORY of Creation. There is not enough evidence to put one ahead of the other so therefore they are theories.
by Melissa, NewJersey, on Sep 23, 2008 03:21 AM, Report abuse
How much did this experement cost? So we are spending billions of dollars to investigate something that potentially could inform mankind of how matter came to fruition....think about this though, what about all the people who are starving and dying as we sit here discussing science? Wouldn't that money be better spent feeding the needy? Why must we constantly focus outside our planet and not on the people in it...those who desperately need help? Oh, and let us not forget the possible outcome.....annihilation?!
by Annette, Toronto, on Sep 11, 2008 12:05 PM, Report abuse Reply
I agree with this 100%, waste of money really. The money could be put to better use.
by justanotherwort, doesn't matter there won't be one anymore, on Sep 11, 2008 01:10 PM, Report abuse
Yes, I agree. It must've costed so so so much! Right now in the world, onyl1 person out of 100 has a uni degree, only 80 % of the people are literate. Why can't the government use this money to solve those crisis first before attempting to investigate into the past? It is almost as if history is mingling with science.
by Cathy Zhang, Auckland, on Sep 11, 2008 01:21 PM, Report abuse
As You Sit Here As Well ! This is not about money or food or starving or dying or the needy
by MARRYATT KEVIN, HALIFAX NOVA SCOTIA, on Sep 11, 2008 01:27 PM, Report abuse
Agreed, this isn't about money or starving people. It's about discovering the unknown in science and far as I'm concerned, I couldn't give a damn about the people who can't read nor any of the other people on this planet. If this succeeds we might be able to advance our technology even farther than it has advanced in the last 200 years.
by Spardaa69, Independence, on Sep 12, 2008 07:04 PM, Report abuse
How much money have you sent to the people of Somalia Huh??
by Andy, Bangalore, on Sep 13, 2008 09:29 AM, Report abuse
Spardaa, I disagree with you. What is technology based on? It is based on fundamental education. HOW CAN technology advance without education? Im sure you and all the people commenting on this page are well educated, but what about the other 80% of the world? If technology advances too fast, the difference between the rich and the poor will length. There is also bound to be a war between science and religion. Science and Religion are two things that are constantly linked together. Without either one of those, our world is going to collapse internally. As the clock ticks by, second after second. Our world is alternating dramatically. As technology advances at 99.999998% of the speed of light, many people are trapped inside the web of imagination. They forget basic morals. What's the point of recreating the Big Bang? If the truth about creation is relished through an experiment would it benefit the world? The ideas of Christianity would be thrown over, without religion the world will never be peaceful again. Wars/under-age sex/abortion/abduction. The occurances of all those things would increase exponentially. Shouldn't we just move forward, instead of lingering between the past and present, like a semi-colon, unsure of who we are, what we are? Sorry people it's really late and Im falling asleep on my keypad.. so excuse me if Im not making any sense at all..
by Cathy Zhang, Auckland, on Sep 21, 2008 02:56 PM, Report abuse
There were four large earthquakes today after this experiment. One in Iran, one in Japan, another in Indonesia and the fourth in Chile (South America). Is this just coincidence? Is this experiment causing unforeseen problems? Could it be that we are tampering with things which the planet, as a living entity does not want us to do? Will there be karmic repercussions for humanity? Will some dictator or country try to use this new technology to make bigger and even more evil weapons? There are too many questions and no answers!
by Karen, Australia, on Sep 11, 2008 03:37 PM, Report abuse Reply
There is no possible way that a simple functions check could have caused those earh quakes. You doomsayers make connections in situations where there are none. I took a dump early this morning, too. Maybe THAT had something to do with the earthquakes.
by Keith, Jacksonville, on Sep 11, 2008 06:29 PM, Report abuse
this is due to lack of irresponsibility,
by vijay, bangalore, on Sep 13, 2008 11:16 AM, Report abuse
See there is God. Otherwise none of us would have been born or living. None of the things in this entire universe or galaxy or milky way or more than that would have evolved. The world is becoming more and more imperfect only by our own sinsand not because God fails to do His 'duty'. Indeed God is doing His duty very well. Only that we are moving away and away from Him, day by day. And we are SURELY digging our own grave slowly and steadily by our own sins. we are going toward THE ARMAGEDDON (when it is I do not know). Only way to stop or reverse it is for all of us to reverse ourselves in all ways (which will be next to impossible). So, don't worry about the LHC, because it alone is not the only that is going to end the world, our own sins shall be more than enough to accomplish the task. So, just pray to God to save all of us and if the LHC is going to be detrimental than useful, pray Him to stop it. That's all we can do.
by S.Muthu krishna, Kannamangalam, on Sep 16, 2008 09:25 PM, Report abuse
S.Muthu krishna, Kannamangalam, I stand behind what you said 100%
by Mykul, Calgary, AB, on Sep 17, 2008 05:29 AM, Report abuse
Nothing will go wrong. Scientists are not fools to kill the "LIFE" like that. there has been a lot of unnecessary hue and cry ablut all this. It is not a child's game that the scientists are playing. there are always lots of calculations before launching such a big. project.
by Dr. Bipin M Des, Navsari,Gujarat, on Sep 15, 2008 02:56 PM, Report abuse Reply
Hey has it ever occured to anyone that probably this could result in the end of the world. If for instance they do manage to create that first moment have they considered what the repercussions could be. Maybe i'm just being cautious. But their experiment could also create a worm hole, or a black hole for that matter and what we know about black holes is that they absorb everything including light. Now if that happens then the first thing that could happen is that them scientist would get swallowed up and then everthing else would follow which means that the earth would swallow itself up......DUUUH
by Carl Zuzart, Mumbai, on Sep 14, 2008 10:56 PM, Report abuse Reply
by aman verma, ludhiana, on Sep 14, 2008 08:14 PM, Report abuse Reply
Dude, have you even read the bible? You don?t even know what you are arguing against. As a creationist, I really don?t care if this proton smasher works or not. Think about that for a moment. Besides evolution is a theory. That means it hasn?t been proven. There is a word for believing something not proven. That word is FAITH. If you believe in evolution, you have more faith than I do, and I go to church twice a week at least.
by mykul, Calgary AB, on Sep 11, 2008 11:48 AM, Report abuse Reply
If you have read the bible, then you can tell me how the bible explains the dinosaur fossils found on earth that date back millions of years?
by FuriouS, Brighton, CO, on Sep 11, 2008 11:52 AM, Report abuse
The answer is in the bible. You haven?t read it. I will tell you but first prove to me beyond the shadow of a doubt that the universe is millions of years old. uni- single, verse- spoke sentence. There are to many coincidences in the bible that line up with real life, to believe that it happened by accident
by Mykul, Calgary, AB, on Sep 12, 2008 06:55 AM, Report abuse
Do you know how many times the bible has been edited over the years? The bible cannot be used as solid proof for any real scientific fact.
by Spardaa69, Independence, on Sep 12, 2008 07:08 PM, Report abuse
Yes. It has been edited ZERO times. It has been copied and translated. It has NEVER been edited. Oh sure they change names like from "Pedro" to "Peter". Now you need to check into your history. The Dead Sea scrolls where an exact match to the current bible. Just don?t forget that if God is real so is satan. And he will want to corrupt the bible. There is an old translation of the bible that is wrong; I believe it is called the "Alexandrian" text. The Alexandrines took all mention of the word "spirit" out. Thus all copies of the bible of the Alexandrian text have "inherencies". With that said the King James Version, is not a copy of the Alexandrian text, and is the true inherent word of God.
by Mykul, Calgary, AB, on Sep 14, 2008 10:17 AM, Report abuse
every god is human imagination of creator, we are programmed by the nature to cling to life as long as possible even if it requires to dream about life after death story, truth is everything dies when we die. its a full stop but we dont have guts to accept this so came all this man made fantasy of heaven and hell. every book of religion is false since they cant answer how god came into being and same way every scientific theory is also wrong since they cant explain how that first particle came into being. to understand this we need time and totally different way of thinking. until that time there will be lots of gods messengers who will promise you a passport to heaven if you accept them as gods authorised passport agents.
by sujay, Bangalore, on Sep 14, 2008 12:45 AM, Report abuse Reply
I simply dont understand why we are co-relating two different things .. people who need food and large hadron .. if you put that money so called 6 billion dollars to feed people what major achievement we will get .. ofcourse it will help poor people for next 10 years .. instead just have a look at this scenario .. once we understand the behaviour of atom at picoatomic level .. then it will be possible for us to create enourmous amount of clean, usable and cheap energy .. once we cracked the code of pure energy at atomic level then we can setup power plants in poor countries .. which will give that particular country freedom atleast in power sector .. once they have abundant source of power .. they can put young generation at work .. young generation will not only generate more revenue but it would be easy for poor coutries to utilize the power of young people in efficient way rather than depending on other countries for so called HELP. This is just one of the possibility .. My concern is do not look at large hadron project as a project from where we can not achieve everything we need in power sector.. instead it will change our view to look at the world and for that 6 billion dollars are nothing.
by LargeHadronProm, CERN, on Sep 13, 2008 12:21 PM, Report abuse Reply
God didnt create the earth you naive prick, if so why are things carbon dated 50,000 years old? Throw that out the window. I'm not going against your religon but the bible is a pretty big white lie. Its like a fiction novel, The characters are the same but the plots ALWAYS DIFFERENT. Thats all, now go pound sand and eat you thin wafer with your wine.
by REALIST, Phoenix, on Sep 11, 2008 09:52 AM, Report abuse Reply
Naive prick? I wouldn't say so. Contrariwise, I'd rather like to think that your response was rather naive and ill founded. I'm so certain you're well read on the "fiction" that is the Bible. Granted that you seem to know nothing in regards to the authorship.
by Meet Your Maker, Seattle, on Sep 11, 2008 09:56 AM, Report abuse
How do you know that the 'things carbon" are really 50,000 years old? Were you there?
by Bill, , on Sep 11, 2008 09:58 AM, Report abuse
In time everyone will see the truth of God. Nothing creates its self. It all comes down to one. it is even mathematically proven. Look it up. plus look up the so called 'fictional" chariots that remain in the red sea. where it states Moses crossed. Open your eyes ans seek the truth. This life Isn't forever. The next one is. you might want to spend it in a place that's not burning.
by Jack, , on Sep 11, 2008 10:01 AM, Report abuse
It sounds to me like your answer to God is naive. How have you proven the truth of creation? Instead of listening to others tell you what to believe why don't you have a little boldness and find out for yourself by testing God at his word? If not your just like everyone else. NAIVE!
by Mick, Tacoma, on Sep 11, 2008 10:02 AM, Report abuse
Dude, First of all, my school mates and I gave a rock made in the Mt. St. Helens Eruption and it was carbon dated 3,000 years old so carbon dating is very flawed. Mostly due to the fact that carbon can be removed and gained so it is not accurate enough to use as any kind of proof and on top of that it dates according to an evolutionary scale, and the evolutionary theory itself has been condemned by the scientist behind it. Darwin himself said that if anything was found that could not be formed by gradual processes over million of billions of years his theory would false. Guess what there are hundreds of things out there that could not be formed over millions of billions of years. Second the sole fact that the Bible is the oldest book on the planet gives it more actual history knowledge than you and I combined. However I am not here to change u I am just here to send a ball rolling. As for this experement, even if they create a universe it took many intelligent scientists to even make the thing work which whether or not u like to admit it is Intelligent Design!
by Read Genesis!!!, Portland, on Sep 11, 2008 10:16 AM, Report abuse
THERE IS NO GOD, because there is no perfect being. Not only is perfection itself impossible, but if there was something perfect, it would be impossible for it to create imperfect things. Why would a perfect being create such an imperfect world and people? Religion is a man-made institution of control. If you are offended by my words, know that I didn't write them... GOD DID! Ignorance is bliss.
by Kent Rifken, , on Sep 11, 2008 10:16 AM, Report abuse
also along with jacks response up there it not too long ago whale bones were found in the mountains. Remember the story of Noah's Ark? The Lord flooded the earth. So how can the Bible be fiction if so many facts about it remain?
by Greg, , on Sep 11, 2008 10:25 AM, Report abuse
hw do u came 2 knw dat things carbon r dated 50,000yrs ago, hv god tol u dat???????????
by vijay, bangalore, on Sep 13, 2008 11:27 AM, Report abuse
I don't think, that this is going to create trouble. all the best..
by Anonymous, Bangalore, on Sep 13, 2008 10:27 AM, Report abuse Reply
well i do not know much about science but trying to recreate something like that i dont think that its a good i dea in as much as it is for the advancement of science wont it have repurcussions and what if something goes wrong because we do not know whats going to happen in the future they should let us know what the side effects are or how this would affect us from other countries
by teknoid, harare, on Sep 12, 2008 03:57 PM, Report abuse Reply
Do you know what teknoid means?? If you know the meaning then u should not be writing stuff like this.
by Andy, Bangalore, on Sep 13, 2008 09:36 AM, Report abuse
I want to know if we are all going to die from this experiment, Is it going to work are they a 100% sure that they wont kill us all?? why are they putting the world at risk when their experiment might not even work. are they are willing to kill everyone on this planet, including their own families and friends... Please tell me im scared i dont want to die yet!!
by Anonymous, London, on Sep 12, 2008 11:45 PM, Report abuse Reply
I wonder why people spend so much of man power and man hours for finding the biggining of universe???..with simple logic itself i myself realised that the universe is the creation fron a very siple single conponent.somthing cannot be created from nothing. there is no...such ...nothingness in universe beyond the time and space factor.time and space factors are one of the top areas of human understandings only, because we understand and analises with the capacity we have or using machinaries we designed which never cannot cover the universe....you can say it as impossible..99% of knowledge is out of our ability and reach, as we are part of that creation only. So INSTEAD OF GOING OUT FOR SEARCHING , CLOSE YOUR EYES AND GO IN TO DEEP MEDITATION AND EXPERIENCE THE ONENESS OF UNIVERSE.YOU WILL FIND THAT SIMPLE UNKNOWN VIBRATIONS IN THE TRUE ONE AND ONLY ONE MEDIUM CAUSES MASS AND WHICH IN TURN CAUSES CREATION. instead of drinking the whole of sea water for knowing the saltness of sea, taste a drop will give you the result.OUR ULTIMATE AIM IS KEEP AWAY ALL RELIGION ,NATIONALISM,SECTIONALISM........ETC AND FEEL THE UNIVERSAL CONCEPT AND LIVE ALONG PEACEFULLY AND HARMONIOUSLY IN THE CYCLE OF UNIVERSE.
by Manoj.s.Nair, POURNAMI,MATHILBHAGOM,THIRUVALLA,KERALA,INDIA, on Sep 12, 2008 11:32 PM, Report abuse Reply
by Ramesh, cal, on Sep 12, 2008 11:42 PM, Report abuse
by Ram, Mal, on Sep 12, 2008 11:42 PM, Report abuse
good ore bad god noese only west of money
by basant agrawal, hubli, on Sep 12, 2008 08:57 PM, Report abuse Reply
everything is important for us
by beershashi, tumkur, on Sep 12, 2008 06:35 PM, Report abuse Reply
Its a giant step and a great effort. Dear Scientists and Engineers, I am with you.
by Advaith, Bangalore, India, on Sep 12, 2008 01:33 PM, Report abuse Reply
"...and universe remains intact!" So far... Why do people keep implying we are safe because they turned it on yesterday? It's an experiment that will run for many months. I doubt anything will go wrong, but the fact remains that it could.
by Anonymous, mars city, on Sep 12, 2008 02:51 AM, Report abuse Reply
Man's technology has exceeded his grasp. The LHC is a dangerous gamble as CERN physicist Alvaro De R?jula in the BBC LHC documentary, 'The $6,000,000,000 Experiment', incredibly admits quote, "science is what we do when we don't know what we're doing."
by SaneScienceOrg, Boston, on Sep 12, 2008 12:12 AM, Report abuse Reply
How do you people even know if this experiment will even work. The past has already happened and pretty soon we will become the past. God does things for a reason and i doubt that he would allow time travel to mess with his creations. If this is at all possible (which i doubt it is) why haven't we gone back in time yet or have any evidence of time travel. Or better yet why hasn't a thought occured to anybody about going to the future. Why a blackhole? Why mess with God's earth? WHY?
by Adam Whitaker, Junction City, on Sep 11, 2008 08:07 PM, Report abuse Reply
The Hadron Collider Controversy Sub:NAHI NAHI PASYATE DRUKKUM KARANE COSMOLOGY ORIGINS-VEDAS_INTERLINKS BE SENSIBLE TO SAVE EARTH PLANET When Big-Bang is under question and Particle Physics has to look for COSMIC DANCE OF LORD SIVA ! WHY ADD DESTRUCTIVE SPIRIT TO EARTH ? INSTEAD SEARCH SEARCH SANCTITY OF LIFE ! Oh GOD! CAN YOU SAVE FROM TRASH MIND-SET? Vidyardhi Nanduri Cosmology World Peace
by Vidyardhi Nandu, Hyderabad, on Sep 11, 2008 05:36 PM, Report abuse Reply
I want to ask the scientists conducting this experiment only one question? Will they come and save the universe if anything happens? They should stop acting like crazy and be human......nobody will bother even if scientists come to know what the hell "Biggs Boson" is or whatever it is.. Maybe they come to know how universe was created.but what will do of that? I think they have no right to play with life of others and the governments of the world should tell these scientists to abort the experiment immediately.
by Abhishek, Dehradun, on Sep 11, 2008 05:13 PM, Report abuse Reply
CERN Fiasco - the end of the world is nigh It appears that the Media has frightened the people to death with the notion that yesterday the world might have ended. I had numerous calls over the last week from family and contacts asking what will happen on Wednesday 10th Sept. I told them absolutely nothing. In fact some people who I had considered previously level-headed were literally unhinged about the whole matter. But the worst part of this media hype is that the collision of protons does not actually happen until around the start of October. Therefore in their quest to sell newspapers they have literally conned the people with misinformation, as yesterday was no more than switching on the electrical systems and testing if protons would travel the 17 miles long system at CERN with no hiccups. When October comes, the Media will again most likely frighten everyone to death again, just in the quest to sell their goods. Isn't it time therefore that the Media got their facts right and apologized to the people who they have conned through misinformation - their readers. Indeed one guy had a letter posted in the Guardian stating that it was their last publication. Therefore one has to ask, has the Guardian also lost its marbles? Unfortunately one tragic outcome of all this that has emerged is a young woman in India committed suicide convinced that the world would end on Wednesday. Although her father tried his best she poisoned herself in the early hours of the same day. One life is too much. The Media should learn and not have the deaths of any person on their hands. But the question has to be asked, how many more actually took their lives through this blatant misinformation ? unfortunately probably hundreds at least taking into account people with depressive conditions throughout the world. I don?t think that the Media will be looking into publishing these figures but where there again, they may think that they can sell even more of their papers. Unfortunately, it is a very sad world that we live in presently and where money counts above human life itself. Dr David Hill World Innovation Foundation Charity (WIFC) Bern, Switzerland
by dr david hill, bern, on Sep 11, 2008 05:07 PM, Report abuse Reply
And one other thing, for all you folks concerned with this project going ahead while others are starving, or needy, or dying, consider this... what would you do, if you were the most powerful person on earth, subject to the constraints placed on you by the laws of whatever land you chose to hypothetically make your seat of power? When I run through this scenario, I arrive at pretty much the same things: 1) many folks are lazy. Why help that lot if they won't help themselves? I can't think of a good reason. 2) many folks are being starved to death very much on purpose by their own government, depending on who's in power and to which ethnic group the citizens happen to belong. 3) many folks are dying in vast numbers due to civil war, genocide, mass persecution, etc. Some of this stuff has to happen in order to get the attention of inside or outside the country who can make a difference, before a change can be made for the better. Hundreds of thousands lost their lives in the early years of the United States so that slavery might be brought to an end (although there are still folks enslaving each other in Africa today). Many more died to stop Naziism in World War 2. Today, at the behest of a rational, freedom-loving government in Afghanistan, NATO member nations are sending their loved ones into combat there so that Afghan women may have an education and so that folks can disagree on matters of religion without getting killed for it. For the nations where the government is run by a dictator, and one or other ethnic group there is being starved to death so that the dictator's power will be less threatened by the populace, what should we do? Sending food and aid money loses its appeal when it's the dictator who wants to prevent that very thing from happening. Vote the dictator out of office? Dictatorships generally do not work so democratically, so elections are not an option. The only practical solutions to oppressive dictatorships are revolution from within, or de-thronement from without. It takes many years, many lives, and incredible amounts of money to go into another country, de-throne an oppressive ruler, and set up a stable, democratic government. When seeking to help the dying, oppressed masses, consider how we would make a case to enter their country uninvited by that country's government, topple that government, and establish security so that the new government can take root and take control. How many nations can be brought freedom for the cost of a Large Hadron Collider is not really the question. The question is, how do we make a real, practical, achievable difference?
by John, Surrey, BC, on Sep 11, 2008 01:53 PM, Report abuse Reply
you are right. it's seemed that you are knowledgeable enough.
by Parazzi, San Deago, on Sep 11, 2008 03:59 PM, Report abuse
i hope that you get a breakthrough of a century and may all the scientist's working at the facility break a test tube!
by nteboheng, gauteng, on Sep 11, 2008 02:49 PM, Report abuse Reply
We, the humanity, is always driven by the motivating force of the thirst for more and more knowledge. The Higg's Boson can not evade from us for long, even though a tiny Bib-Bang may be necessary to discover it. But, are we trying to eat "Fruit" from the "Forbidden Tree of Knowledge"? Are we heading towards the end of this universe? For more info: http://jogygeorge.cat.googlepages.com/myviews
by Jogy George, Indore, India, on Sep 11, 2008 02:12 PM, Report abuse Reply
Ever stopped and asked yourself how the first DNA strain might have been created? DNA is like complex code written in chemical format. So complex that we only in the last couple of years deciphered some of the gene sequencing. It's almost as if it were designed that way. And yet some will go to all ends to explain away the origin of DNA as being the result a chance lightning strike on a pool of precursor goo. Those folks might want to consider the possibility that creation and evolution work together, rather than being mutually exclusive theories. Once having made that consideration, next they might try asking themselves, "if there is/was a creator, what then?" Yes, we might have to take stock of ourselves and our thoughts and our actions because we might have to wonder if we weren't accountable to a higher power after all. But, in the name of not being held accountable, for not having to place faith in a higher power, we can go ahead and try to explain how DNA could have written itself.
by John, Surrey, BC, on Sep 11, 2008 01:25 PM, Report abuse Reply
I know.. some people think we know everything. the truth is we don't even know half of it. That's why scientists exist! to make discovery through experiments and to make an attempt of answering those questions. Maybe if we carry on with this experiment then we can prove that if the Big Bang really created us. If it fails, maybe we will come in terms with the theory that God created the universe? I just hope we won't all be shattered into billions of pieces. If so then i truly wish to be a doctor for at least one day before I die.. Im still 16!:(
by Cathy Zhang, Auckland, on Sep 11, 2008 01:33 PM, Report abuse
why can we waste such money with out knowing much about it and its results ?big bang theory is in its primary stage and we are taking risk to prove it.
by yogesh jindal, noida, on Sep 11, 2008 01:23 PM, Report abuse Reply
I have one word for you: ARMAGEDDON
by mE AND hIM, JHB, on Sep 11, 2008 01:13 PM, Report abuse Reply
Genius are crazy. They are atheist. They try to elaborate of how the universe exists, but in fact, that they cannot explain how they could be born in this world.
by Priesto, Vatican City, on Sep 11, 2008 12:38 PM, Report abuse Reply
So can you explain how you were born into this world? Wait, i don't think I need to ask you, I can just go to my bookshelf an get out that red covered book, the Bible. But Religion is based on stories, happenings that are recorded from the past. Science is the investigation into the future. Don't get me wrong, i high regard religion as the only thing that can bring peace in this world. However, Christianity is a mere theory of the past. No one can prove that. the only record is the Bible but no one can verify that.
by Cathy Zhang, Auckland, on Sep 11, 2008 12:45 PM, Report abuse
Birth can be simply and easily explained from a biological perspective.
by Philippe, Trois-Rivi?res, Qu?bec, Canada, on Sep 11, 2008 12:48 PM, Report abuse
I think the point he's making is that NO ONE can truly explain birth. yes, there's a biological pattern to it, but what causes the spark? what causes two DNA's to combine so perfectly that they form (or don't form) into a human (or any living thing for that reason). the bible doesn't explain things, it gives you a reference to live by, help your neighbor, love them as you love yourself, and understand that no one is perfect, not one. the people who take the bible literally are just as bad as those who completely disregard it IMHO
by Justin, Chicago, on Sep 11, 2008 12:52 PM, Report abuse
Some people like to explore previously unknown territories, some people like the new, and such people shouldn't be called crazy.
by Philippe, Trois-Rivi?res, Qu?bec, Canada, on Sep 11, 2008 12:58 PM, Report abuse
and some people like to pursue self-serving ideals while turning a blind eye to the suffering and war all around them too, I guess they're justified since it's what they want, right?
by yup, America, on Sep 11, 2008 01:02 PM, Report abuse
Why does scientists want to create something that is at high risk, which may or may not wipe the world out? Is it to prove that there is no God that exists and we should all believe in the Big Bang? But have people ever wondered about the balance between Religion a.k.a Christianity in which says god created the world and the "Big Bang" which almost every scientist believe in just to make sure that science is their's and every body elses top priority? Why preventing everything from moving forward? The future is what we need to look into NOT the past which makes your brain full of puzzles. Because the past is the past, people could NOT state anything for CERTAIN...
by Tina Li, Auckland, on Sep 11, 2008 12:52 PM, Report abuse Reply
I am NOT telling everyone that they cant hv different religious beliefs or no belief or a strong science beliefs. But I think that creating too much high technology things firstly harm the earth and secondly cause arguments between people. Why would you want to risk your life JUST 2 do find the origin of the earth...the question I want to ask is WHAT IS THE POINT?
by Tina Li, Auckland, on Sep 11, 2008 01:01 PM, Report abuse
Well, Tina, Im glad you agree with my perspective. I completely agree with what you are saying. I think this may be a good thing in another angle, maybe we can learn more about ourselves through this experiment, who knows? P.s Teapots are just cool. cough
by Cathy Zhang, Auckland, on Sep 11, 2008 01:01 PM, Report abuse
what i want to know is why they are going thru with it if its capable of creating black holes?
by M smith, toowoomba , QLD australia, on Sep 11, 2008 01:01 PM, Report abuse Reply
too all those who think this a worthwhile gamble, I say we meet and play us some Russian Roulette, you go first!
by Justin, Chicago, on Sep 11, 2008 12:59 PM, Report abuse Reply
RELIGION IS THE CAUSE FOR MOST WARS LOOK IT UP.
by jewishbigben, new york, on Sep 11, 2008 12:34 PM, Report abuse Reply
Yes, SOME wars are caused by Religion. HOWEVER, most wars in the 21 century are caused by conflicts, land authorization, amount of crude oil etc etc. Even though I am not religious and I am a firm believer of science, I still think that Religion is the only thing that can slow scientific developments down. In many ways this is actually a good thing. If a young child is running too fast he is bound to fall over and scrape his knee.
by Cathy Zhang, Auckland, on Sep 11, 2008 12:54 PM, Report abuse
I think people are not dumb enough to be scared of a simple science experiment. Only all the theoreticians who are staying in the abstract mathematical world far apart from the real world. Thinking they know everything about how nature as well as this universe works based on their own theory based on their abstract mathematics are the most afraid ones as their theory can be proved to be wrong after the experiment.
by Anonymous, Kolkata, on Sep 11, 2008 12:50 PM, Report abuse Reply
I think this kind of experiment will not really be useful in confirming current speculative theory but rather give birth to a whole new spectrum of theories.
by Philippe, Trois-Rivi?res, Qu?bec, Canada, on Sep 11, 2008 12:45 PM, Report abuse Reply
most of the comments here make me feel bad about the people...REAL bad about the people. Why so many silly/uniformed people reading a science blog?
by SuperiorSteve, SuperiorCity, on Sep 11, 2008 11:57 AM, Report abuse Reply
by mikey, brisbane, on Sep 11, 2008 12:33 PM, Report abuse
see, there's 10 kinds of people in the world, those who understand Binary and those who don't and there's two kinds of being 'informed' as you say, Intelligence and Wisdom. maybe you're just too dang intelligent to understand when to say enough already?
by Justin, Chicago, on Sep 11, 2008 12:44 PM, Report abuse
Pls let me know how we can watch this experiment on our computer.We are having internet connection of Cable.
by Pawan Mittal, Mumbai.India, on Sep 11, 2008 12:34 PM, Report abuse Reply
Science and Religion are two things that are constantly linked together. Without either one of those, our world is going to collapse internally. As the clock ticks by, second after second. Our world is alternating dramatically. As technology advances at 99.999998% of the speed of light, many people are trapped inside the web of imagination. They forget basic morals. What's the point of recreating the Big Bang? If the truth about creation is relished through an experiment would it benefit the world? The ideas of Christianity would be thrown over, without religion the world will never be peaceful again. Wars/under-age sex/abortion/abduction. The occurances of all those things would increase exponentially. Shouldn't we just move forward, instead of lingering between the past and present, like a semi-colon, unsure of who we are, what we are.
by Cathy Zhang, Auckland, on Sep 11, 2008 12:31 PM, Report abuse Reply
What if this is why there are so many other black holes? Maybe society gets so far and collides particles, then BAMO! We die out, the next galaxy is born int he chaos. I say we do it and prove once more to the end of the world propagandists that it isn't coming. Interesting theory to say the least. If God really didn't want us messing with stuff like this, the science wouldn't work, that is if there is a god. To all the close minded sheep.. BAAAAA!!! Close your eyes and walk towards the light while handing 10% to child molesting priests and pastures.
by FuriouS, Brighton, CO, on Sep 11, 2008 09:59 AM, Report abuse Reply
HA, you've got a twisted view cuz you're from Colorado, home of the worst kind of religious fuctards. Take a step back, quit associating God with what MAN has made Him into and maybe you'll find in your heart that there is more to life than Science and correlation-based theories. Were YOU here when the Universe was created, were YOU here when the Earth was made. unless you were, technically you are facing your faith in something just as 'far-fetched' as God as you say. unfortunately, what you fail to realize is the very issue that you seem to distrust God is what may cause your undoing, the twisting of it all by MAN.
by justin, chicago, on Sep 11, 2008 11:41 AM, Report abuse
I have been around my share of religious jack offs to say the least. The comments above were designed to draw a reaction from someone, I thought it was missed but am happy to see your reply. I have no thoughts on god, other than man is incorrect about it and has confused spirituality with religion. It's an easy hot button to push right now if you really want to see someone react with passion.
by FuriouS, Brighton, CO, on Sep 11, 2008 11:47 AM, Report abuse
But maybe God wants to finish it all and that is why he let us build the Hadron
by Tom, Melbourne, on Sep 11, 2008 11:49 AM, Report abuse
well in that case I think we're close to the same page. I personally DO believe we can make life better through innovation, but this pushes it a little far. we have the power to solve world hunger, cure diseases, and make the world clean without smashin particles together at the cost of 10 bil USD. I'm just sayin, fix what's broken before you try to solve the mysteries of it. I mean obv we haven't figured out how to get past our own selves yet or none of us would be having this conversation, right?
by Justin, Chicago, on Sep 11, 2008 11:56 AM, Report abuse
I am more concerned about the narrow mindedness of people who believe that science and God cannot exist in the same universe. If you don't believe in Him, why do you have to make stupid statements? Are you ignorant?
by Reborn, Johannesburg, on Sep 11, 2008 12:02 PM, Report abuse
No. I'm an asshole. There is a difference, but it's hard to see. An asshole says things to make you mad intentionally, while someone who is ignorant does it without intention.
by FuriouS, Brighton, CO, on Sep 11, 2008 12:06 PM, Report abuse
Did you miss my reply? This was not an accidental statement, I said it to draw reaction, and so far it's doing quite well. I do believe that god and science can co-exist, it's religion that takes issue to this when science contradicts it's old dusty book.
by FuriouS, Brighton, CO, on Sep 11, 2008 12:08 PM, Report abuse
Indubitably, science and God CAN coexist, so long as we don't lose sight of what science is good for, enhancing life. There may be good that could come from this, yes, but Oppenheimer later in life questioned whether his discoveries were worth it. Sadly I think we are too smug in our assumption we can control all the variables.
by Justin, Chicago, on Sep 11, 2008 12:13 PM, Report abuse
AMEN BROTHA!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAA ******* A Ray
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by Scared and para, Roseburg, on Sep 11, 2008 12:26 PM, Report abuse
RELIGION IS THE SHIT THAT HAS BEEN TOO MUCH OF A HUMAN RESTRICTION. IT HAS HINDERED US AS HUMANS.
by Scared and para, Roseburg, on Sep 11, 2008 12:30 PM, Report abuse
All i can say is wow.. LOL. Im suprised we never died xD.. They Way they Explained it. Was to collide Particals Towards eachother, to create the big bang. In theory it shoudl work. But Is it Not tru to AMke teh Big bang ANtimatter and Matter collided wish each other and created mini explosions and such.. The atom Bomb Was A Miniture big bang, so to speak. So realy this project was a waste of money xD Lol blakc hole you guys are freaks....
by Scotteh, Nanoose Bay, on Sep 11, 2008 11:52 AM, Report abuse Reply
They've only done a test run, from what I've read. Only one beam had been sent. Particle smashing will take place next month. Not sure of the exact date.
by Teena, KCMO, on Sep 11, 2008 12:27 PM, Report abuse
INSPITE OF THE DANGERS THAT WE PEOPLE ARE FEARING OF,IF IT IS UNSUCCESSFULL.HOW MUCH WE ARE GOING TO GAIN.
by SPANDAN GHOSH, HOWRAH, on Sep 11, 2008 12:26 PM, Report abuse Reply
This experiment is eerily close to the story of the video game Half Life. Just to be safe I am going to get my crowbar handy.
by FuriouS, Brighton, CO, on Sep 11, 2008 11:03 AM, Report abuse Reply
by Teena, KCMO, on Sep 11, 2008 11:12 AM, Report abuse
Not only does it seem like the story of half-life, but look at this http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/f/fd/LHC_Gordan_Freeman.jpg strange coincidence, don't you think?
by Krystal, Coolum, on Sep 11, 2008 11:54 AM, Report abuse
by yogi, india, on Sep 11, 2008 12:12 PM, Report abuse
You would need to have played Half Life to get this, or read about it. The hero in this game uses a crow bar to fight off creatures that came through a dimensional gap created by a science experiment gone wrong. This is the game that defined the modern first person shooter, if you have not played it, I recommend you do so. You can get it at www.steampowered.com
by FuriouS, Brighton, CO, on Sep 11, 2008 12:15 PM, Report abuse
To get this joke you will have to have played, or heard about the game "Half Life". It's the game that defined the modern first person shooter and I highly recommend it.
by FuriouS, Brighton, CO, on Sep 11, 2008 12:16 PM, Report abuse
However, I'd have to say that TFC was the best game out of that pack, in my opinion. Would you happen to have a spare crowbar, though? I'd like to be prepared.
by Teena, KCMO, on Sep 11, 2008 12:22 PM, Report abuse
by ISHAAN, ahd, on Sep 11, 2008 12:24 PM, Report abuse
TRUTHFULLY i live in the moutains now so be the world may do as you wish and at least i have a better chance!!HA HA HA AH AHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
by Scared and para, Roseburg, on Sep 11, 2008 12:10 PM, Report abuse Reply
I didn't know mountains were immune to massive planet killing black holes!!!! I am moving to the mountains ASAP
by FuriouS, Brighton, CO, on Sep 11, 2008 12:12 PM, Report abuse
by Scared and para, Roseburg, on Sep 11, 2008 12:24 PM, Report abuse
Google's banner page features a picture of the LHC, MORE proof this is doomed from the get go. Google is Skynet in the making. haha (sorry, had to lighten this up a little)
by Justin, Chicago, on Sep 11, 2008 12:16 PM, Report abuse Reply
Cmon, its not like they got a bund of redneck jerk offs together and gave em all a few billion to see what kind of mess they could make. This project is a collaboration of the best of the best from all types of different disciplines throughout the world. Isnt it just great to get that type of group together for a reason other than by force to win a war? Let scientists be scientists and further knowledge and technology for all mankind.
by Cullen, CowTown, on Sep 11, 2008 12:14 PM, Report abuse Reply
if you people dont like this then change the channel
by dry, pemne, on Sep 11, 2008 12:14 PM, Report abuse Reply
hae is there any chance of a black hole????
by nda, Wellington, on Sep 11, 2008 12:14 PM, Report abuse Reply
Hey, dumb dumb Creationists, Evolution is not a 'theory', it's a fact. The details by which evolution occurred is a theory. There isn't a credible scientist on earth that disputes the fact that what is around us is the result of evolution. To relate it in terms you can understand, think of it this way. The sheer number of different branches of Christianity (Protestant, Catholic, etc, etc) does not change the fact that all of you, collectively, take God and Jesus as a given. Anyway, that's off topic. That machine is going to kill us all.
by Jimmy Doomsday, Moncton, on Sep 15, 2008 04:25 PM, Report abuse Reply